Laser Hair Loss Therapy – Does it work?

by Staff Writer

Dr. Bauman and Dr. Feller on The Bald Truth Hair Loss ShowSpencer Kobren, host of the nationally syndicated radio show, “The Bald Truth,” invites Dr. Alan Bauman and Dr. Alan Feller to discuss the efficacy of low level light lasers being used for the treatment of hair loss

 

 

Segment One

Segment Two

Segment Three

{ 39 comments… read them below or add one }

SaraD July 10, 2008 at 4:12 am

I have been doing laser therapy for 2 months now. I am a woman, age 30, who has minimal diffused thinning all over the top of my head. It is working for me! I has thickened up my existing hair and patchiness in some areas has DISAPPEARED. I believe it is a great therapy for those with a small amount of loss. I think those that have a more progressed problem may have difficulty seeing results from it. I has helped me so far and I am confident that by 6 months my problem will be resolved. Dr. Feller is too closed minded about this therapy.

Anonymous December 21, 2008 at 8:22 am

I am neither a doctor nor an engineer, but I can provide a simple explanation for why grocery store checkout clerks do not grow hair on their hands as a result of scanning items with a laser (one of Dr. Feller’s counterpoints).

The palms of the hands – along with the soles of the feet – are the few areas on the human body where there are no hair follicles. In addition, the hairs on the reverse side of the hands are what are called terminal hairs, meaning that they do not grow past a certain length and they maintain a particular thickness (or thinness, in fact).

Hairs on the head are NOT terminal hairs – meaning that they do have the potential to keep growing, long and thick, up until a certain point. When the hair on your head thins, it’s not that hairs “become” terminal hairs, but rather the follicle becomes choked and clogged.

David Newbary April 4, 2009 at 4:29 pm

I dont know neither Dr. Baumen or Feller, and plan on consulting both of them on hair transplants in the future. But heres what i have to say about my experience with the laser. The laser they are refering to is a fancy name for basic red light therapy. that is red light at a very specific wave lenghth. i first discovered light therapy as an acne treatment in a blue light, which greatly cleared my skin. it was offered in-office treatment with a huge bright led machine. they also used red light on my skin, which in turn took the redness out of my skin, and reduced all my swelling and redness in my face. So red light basically targets swelling. Well what does DHT do to the follicle? im sure alot of things, including sweling, which would choke the follicle and squeeze the hair i would imagine. I went online and found blue and red LED lights meant for the same acne treatments they do in-office, and bought them for my home. i bought an arm mount to hold my red light, and mounted it behind my couch. i sit under the red LED light for an hour sometimes, usually 2-3 times a week. and i have definitely noticed my hair is thicker, i can’t see my scalp as easily. it also takes the redness out of my face, the point is, it is penetrating my skin. Any swelling, or redness(whereever there is redness, like my face) is going away. i can only assume that if i see a difference in the skin on my face, it has to be effecting the skin at some level on my scalp. Im also curious to know myself, if the blue light (which is meant to kill bacteria, like acne causing bacteria) will kill dandruff? is dandruff a bacteria, like acne? if so, then a combo red led and blue led, light would also benefit the scalp, which im searching for.

David Newbary April 4, 2009 at 4:38 pm

Also, i know for a fact, blue light has been published in the Harvard medical journals, as being proven to kill bacteria, not speculative or therory. it actaully causes oxygen on a microscopic level to move into the bacteria cells. If blue light has been medically “prooven” to effect skin, why cant other wavelengths of light(red light, hair lasers) possibly do the same thing?

David Newbary April 4, 2009 at 5:34 pm

Ok, just got done listening to segment 3. oh my god, when i heard what in-office hair lasers cost a year, i alomost fainted. i am a big fan of Dr. Baumen, and im sure his machine is Superior to any comb, or any other light product period. Just as the blue acne lights in the dermatologists office are far superior to the home versions. But for my fellow man, the waiters, that are my best frineds and cant afford 4k a yr for in-office light/laser therapy. the home version of a strong red led light (NOT A battery COMB) i mean i a real, screw-in light bulb, that is full of red leds, and runs off a regular plug. they do exsist, and are working for me. i found them at “intelligentacnetreatment.com” i do not work for the company, im not even sure if im allowed to mention their name. but they sell these red leds, and they’re strong. they do not advertise their red lights for the scalp or hair, only for rosecha and red skin, but the wavelengths of red light published for the hair lasers, and skin lasers are in the same parameters. ive actaully emailed them to help them promote that product for hair as well, as for the skin. i also bought a strong heavyduty snake arm light holder, to hold the 1 lb light bulb, it is heavy.

Salam January 28, 2010 at 9:50 am

I want to know how many laser seating need for hair Regrowth, and when you stop the laser seating then again hair fall started or not?

tracy February 11, 2010 at 7:01 pm

Has anyone researched the side effects of the laser light and if so what are they?

Herbert Guzman May 25, 2010 at 6:41 pm

I have been using lasex max com for seven months and I still have not seen any results. However i have seen that i am loosing more hair. Just wondering if anyone else has experience the same problem.

lillan May 29, 2010 at 3:26 am

what is wattage of red led bulb ?

Kilmar June 24, 2010 at 4:56 am

I went for laser therapy for balding. I tried it out for a year and a half and got no results. I decided to stop the treatment and simply shaved my head bald. But a few years later I am now noticing a huge discoloration on my sculp where my hairloss occured. The discoloration is the exact shape of the balding pattern and is really worrying me. Its like a huge birth mark on my head. Is this from the laser therapy. I cant see any other explanation. I wear a cap everywhere I go which is a special cap that is UV resistant so I’m not exposing my head to the sun. But even if it were sun exposure why is the shape exactly that of the balding pattern? Can anybody comment or has any one experienced the same thing.

yasaman September 3, 2010 at 4:13 am

hi,i’m iranian i leave in iran.i have one question.my head has many weak haires but they don’t grow at all.on the other side we have this method in iran.do you think this method can be helpfull for me or no?best regards

Randy September 3, 2010 at 11:01 pm

How much does it cost?

Masud September 6, 2010 at 6:48 am

Dear Sir,
I am Masud from Bangladesh. I have been facing hair loss from last 2 years. I am anxous about this matter. please give me advise how i can solve this problem. how much will be cost for laser therapy?

Rgds
Masud

griffin morris September 14, 2010 at 2:13 pm

i too!!! notice my laser comb has caused more hairloss!! and no results.. ive been using it for 4months now, however it made my hair really black as oposed to being light brown>>

jojo October 22, 2010 at 8:55 pm

Using the Gaunitz laser for about 5 months now… jut not noticing some strong new hairs growing.. not as strong as the in clinic and i prob have a good 6 -7 mre months before i see strong results…

about 7 years ago I went in for 9 months of treatment in their clinic and saw amazing results… kep taking propecia but no minox… hair did not maintain … now at 29 it is close to where it was when i went in their for treatment initially… but the ecrochnia is expensive , not as strong but i trust their product and am starting to see results

SARAH November 5, 2010 at 12:00 pm

HERBERT, I USED THE HAIR MAX LASER COMB FOR ABOUT FIVE MONTHS. FROM THE VERY START MY HAIR SHEDDING INCREASED (CONSIDERABLY) SO AFTER A FEW WEEKS I WAS BECOMING CONCERNED AND CALLED THE MANUFACTURER. THEY TOLD ME THAT THIS WAS A “POSITIVE RESPONSE” TO THE LASER COMB AND THAT NEW HAIRS (UNDERNEATH THE OLD ONES) WERE PUSHING THE OLD ONES OUT . THEY SAID THAT THE NEW HAIRS WOULD SOON BEGIN TO APPEAR WHERE OTHERS HAD FALLEN OUT. AT ABOUT TWO TO THREE MONTHS INTO THIS “THERAPY” I NOTICED SOME VERY, VERY MINISCULE HAIRS FORMING AT MY HAIRLINE BUT I WAS STILL LOSING HAIR LIKE CRAZY SO I CALLED THEM AGAIN AND ALSO CALLED MY DERMOTOLOGIST IN NYC. BOTH TOLD ME TO CONTINUE AND THAT THEY THOUGHT THE COMB WAS EFFECTING A CHANGE. WELL, AFTER 4-5 MOS. WHEN MY OVERT SHEDDING DID NOT ABATE, AND THE TINY LITTLE HAIRS WERE STILL BARELY VISIBLE, I SENT THE COMB BACK FOR A REFUND. HENCE, I’M IN WORSE SHAPE NOW THAN I HAD BEEN BEFORE ALL MY TIME, EFFORT, AND ADDED SHEDDING. I WISH I’D NEVER TRIED IT BECAUSE IT ONLY WORSENED MY SITUATION BUT IF YOU’RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH IT, BE CAREFUL TO USE IT AS RECOMENDED AND PERHAPS GIVE THE MANUFACTURER A CALL TO DISCUSS YOUR SITUATION AND YOUR DERMOTOLOGIST IF YOU GO TO ONE. YOU’LL KNOW WHEN AND IF TO GIVE IT UP. GOOD LUCK TO YOU, I HOPE IT GIVES YOU BETTER RESULTS THAN IT DID ME.

jason January 12, 2011 at 8:12 am

I have used laser comb for many years and I haven’t seen any results from it. Finally, after my $700 laser comb and years of therapy I gave up on it. This thing does not work.

I am using propecia and I can say that product has slowed down my hair loss and grew some hair. I use to use rogaine and that also worked for me but it made my scalp flaky – so I stopped. I have also tried many other methods and unfortunately nothing really worked for me expect these two medications. The only thing I hate is propecia is expensive and somehow keeps increasing in price, I want the stupid patent to expire so there will be other generic propecia that you can buy in US.

rOGER January 18, 2011 at 12:51 pm

IS THERE ANY PROVEN RESULTS WITH USING Nizoral in reducing or eliminating hair loss. I still have hair, but it is thinning, but I also use NISIM hair tonic and I have not seen any further loss of hair. I also use Nioxin, but have heard that it is just fluff. Any information would be great as I am thinking of going back on Propecia or Proscar

tony April 19, 2011 at 6:45 pm

Laser therapy works. The problem is this… those who administer it don’t give you enough time under the laser. It’s necessary to spend at least 15 minutes a day under it for 3 months straight. After that, maintenance works well.

patrick May 10, 2011 at 8:52 pm

any place around dallas,tx that use this laser for regrowing hair

Scientist June 11, 2011 at 2:17 pm

I think all of this discussion great. However, Dr. Alan Feller doesn’t come across well. I’d like to see him express some knowledge of the scientific literature in his critiques, rather than just dismissing everything.

mohamed June 12, 2011 at 11:12 pm

I`d like to know if leaser treatment is suitable for anyone who has a large area of hairfalling due to genatic causes from 5 years ,so can it works against genatic and if the boldness has hapened from more than 5 years?

Mother July 5, 2011 at 5:39 pm

Try biotin for hair loss. Sure stopped mine from falling out. Same effect on my husband. I use 5mg daily. Does not grow new hair.

Leonard Stillman July 10, 2011 at 3:19 pm

I am Leonard Stillman, Director of Professional Services at Lexington International, LLC manufacturers of the HairMax LaserComb. This posting is not for commercial purposes but to provide further information about laser phototherapy for treating hair loss.

NOT ALL LASERS ARE THE SAME AND NOT ALL BRANDS OF LASERS ARE THE SAME

There has been a lot of publicity about lasers and their use in all areas of medicine, from surgical uses to uses for cosmetic indications such as hair growth, hair removal, wrinkle effacement and cellulite reduction. Recently, there have been an ever increasing number of home use laser devices introduced that make all sorts of unproven claims.

The action of these lasers is dependent on the TOTAL output of laser wavelength they emit and is NOT dependent on the number of lasers used to give this output. In fact, if a laser is designed for hair growth, total laser output has to be specific at 655 nm to be effective. For a laser to destroy or remove hair, they have to have a higher wavelength output in the visible light spectrum of around 800 nm. And of course, lasers used in surgery to remove lesions have to have an even higher wave length of over 1000 nm to work. So you can see that just a little higher wave length than that which is required to work for a specific condition, can actually cause a different reaction as between hair growth and destruction.

It is important to know these facts about lasers and what they are used for because there is so much conflicting information on the web about lasers and what they can do. The big “buzz word” in hair growth is the allegation that the more lasers a device has, the better it will work to grow hair. As mentioned above, this is not true as it is the TOTAL energy output that is important and NOT the number of lasers it takes to deliver this energy. In fact, more lasers in a device could in fact be delivering too much energy and cause hair loss rather than hair growth because of excess energy delivery.

So how do you know what is the best laser to pick for treating a specific condition, particularly for home use? The answer is simple – you should ONLY consider any home use medical device that has specific FDA clearance for marketing. While there are a lot of home use devices available on the web making all sorts of claims, there are very few that have FDA clearance. As an example, while there are many devices advertised for hair growth, the HairMax LaserComb is the ONLY home use laser phototherapy device that has FDA clearance for marketing for the promotion of hair growth. Likewise, while there are many devices that claim efficacy for hair removal, only a couple of them have FDA clearance. It is that simple……DO NOT buy any home use device that does not have FDA clearance, period!

So why is this FDA clearance so vital? The reason is that this means that a 510(k) submission has been submitted to the FDA for the device and has been reviewed by that agency to assure that the device is safe. In many cases, as with the HairMax LaserComb, efficacy has been proven in well controlled clinical studies and these studies were pivotal in the clearance of the device by the FDA.

In addition to this review and clearance, the FDA requires and monitors strict manufacturing and quality control standards. This oversight assures that the energy put out by these devices ALWAYS complies with the energy output for which they were cleared for marketing. Using any other devices that do not have this clearance means you do not know how they are made and in some cases you do not even know who makes them since they use a mail drop address. FDA clearance for marketing is specific to the specific brand and is NOT transferable to other devices of its kind. There is no such thing as an “FDA approved brand of laser”!

So while the various lasers on the market, particularly in the home use category can be confusing, it is easy to eliminate most of those advertised for consideration because they DO NOT have FDA clearance SPECIFIC to their brand. Be sure to do your research and assure that the company marketing the device you are considering has spent the resources to achieve FDA clearance for marketing the right to make claims for efficacy. Only in that way can you be confident that they will do what they are designed to do and are a high quality product.

We hope that you will post to clarify the information about lasers for hair growth.

noriko1 July 22, 2011 at 5:22 pm

Thank you Mr. Stillman for the clarification of what the standards are for laser treatment for hair loss. I have been scouring the internet to find out as much as I can and your explanation is the clearest explanation I have found. It’s particularly devastating for hair loss to occur in women and you have helped me consider some plan of action I could possibly to help my situation.

Donna August 1, 2011 at 9:21 pm

my dermatoligist gave me shots where all the bald spots where the bald spots were tjis works but i don’t remember what was in the shots.

Devin August 5, 2011 at 4:01 pm

@ David Newberry,

How has the light worked for you now? I am very interested in your progress…hope you see this post

umar August 13, 2011 at 8:18 pm

iam doing laser treatment for 2 months and i did not view any betterment in my hair they are still falling as they did earlier

Cosmetic Laser Maintenance August 17, 2011 at 8:08 pm

Actually, it’s not just about marketing and claims. It’s actually a violation of US law to possess, distribute, or transport within the US any laser product intended for clinical use. And FDA 510K/PMA’s are MODEL specific, not just brand specific.

Cosmetic Laser Maintenance August 17, 2011 at 9:13 pm

And Mr. Stillman, there are quite a few other errors in your statements. Too many for a laser company executive:

“TOTAL output of laser wavelength they emit”- This is not true. The efficacy of a laser by wavelength is determined by the total output ENERGY. Wavelength is not energy- it is TYPE of energy or simply put, COLOR.

“For a laser to destroy or remove hair, they have to have a higher wavelength output in the visible light spectrum of around 800 nm”
-This is also not true. First of all, 800nm is near infrared. Most people can’t see beyond 735nm. Second, one of the most common lasers used for hair removal is Alexandrite, which is a 733nm-755nm, depending on the brand, laser.

“And of course, lasers used in surgery to remove lesions have to have an even higher wave length of over 1000 nm to work”- Also not true. In fact, besides CO2 lasers, which are used commonly in surgery, the most common lasers used in surgery are lower than 635nm. For instance, 532nm, or KTP/Yag is often used in various surgical applications. Argon lasers, which operation in lower wavelengths than green (532nm is green) are commonly used for eye surgery. Excimer lasers are even shorter wavelength for the most part.

“just a little higher wave length than that which is required to work for a specific condition, can actually cause a different reaction as between hair growth and destruction”- Though you can rationally say one wavelength over another is more desirable for the stimulation of hair growth, it is erratic to say hair growth is based on wavelength alone. A 655nm laser at 100W would probably burn a hole through your head, and CO2 (10K+nm) at 1mW wouldn’t hurt a fly. Remember- some of the most damaging rays are in the ultraviolet spectrum… far below your 655nm.

“this is not true as it is the TOTAL energy output that is important and NOT the number of lasers it takes to deliver this energy”
-Well, that’s too much a generalized statement. Wouldn’t more DIODES (because we’re talking diodes here, not lasers… and diodes are NOT Light Amplification through Stimulated Emission of Radiation) cover more space? And if these diodes are each putting out an adequate amount of energy to stimulate hair growth… which by common sense would have to be very low, lest they kill the hair follicles (because 655nm CAN damage hair follicles), then wouldn’t a device with more diodes be superior to one with less diodes, and equally adequate output? Take for example skin resurfacing. Fractional skin resurfacing is generally recognized as superior to single laser skin resurfacing (fractional resurfacing splits the LASER beam into several, covering an area of a specific design… like squares or diamonds, depending on the settings). The fractional lasers each put out a far lower output in energy than a single laser. There are more factors to consider than just output energy, especially when speaking of LLLT (low level laser therapy) procedures like hair growth.

So how do you consider which laser to use for home use? You don’t. Lasers that are powerful enough to do anything will NEVER be approved for home use. Lasers which require a 510K are medical devices. In fact, the 510K number the HairMax Lasercomb possesses PROHIBITS is use by anyone other than a physician in most states, and a Certified Medical Esthetician in others. From the 510K approval letter:
“Please be advised that FDA’s issuance of a substantial equivalence determination does not mean that FDA has made a determination that your device complies with other requirements of the Act or any Federal statutes and regulations administered by other Federal agencies. You must comply with all the Act’s requirements, including, but not limited to: registration and listing (21 CFR Part 807); labeling (21 CFR Part 801); good manufacturing practice requirements as set forth in the quality systems (QS) regulation (21 CFR Part 820); and if applicable, the electronic product radiation control provisions (Sections 531-542 of the Act); 21 CFR 1000-1050.”

This means you are also bound to 21 CFR 1040.10-11, and that your device is regulated as a MEDICAL LASER. It was found substantially equivalent to (from the 510K approval letter):
“The LaserComb has the same intended use of affecting hair growth as its preamendments hair growth predicate devices and its laser hair removal predicates.”

It is NOT approved for home use.

Thomas September 13, 2011 at 7:45 pm

It seems from this post and others majority of the people who tried laser treatment have not seen any result and even gotten worst. The same is true for me, I tried the lasercomb for about five months properly by the book but my hair loss has gotten worst. I have rarely seen people who claim the laser treatment worked for them. My suggestion is don’t spent money on treatments that don’t work instead accept it and hope for scientific break through to regrow hair in the future.

seyu October 10, 2011 at 8:02 am

First of all, if anyone gives his/her statement about their use of laser treatment, please mention if you use a home-device(comb) or you visit a clinic to do the 15 minutes laser therapy. IMPORTANT

Because it seems can Clinical visits is more efficient than laser comb´s

AND, if you use a clinic, then explain which technology the laser machine is. (Ex. Laser Hair Care 6000XL)

The use of laser treatment have to be 60 times the first year. And 30-40 times the second year

Peoples hairloss is different, some have strong hairloss and some have slow hairloss. For those who have strong hairloss, need also to use rogaine, eat vitamin B and Zink etc….

And work very hard the first year, then the hair will be strong and need less work to be thick

murad October 16, 2011 at 4:51 am

hey guys could u tell me does laser treatment works?

sara October 16, 2011 at 10:38 am

ya, even i experienced the same thing. my hair was thin, never had this hairfall problem, in order to make it thicker i went for this low level laser and lost half of my hair. now i have shaved my head and im taking biotin supplement. im really very nervous. im just 22 female. i always think y i went there and cry all day. i just did 5sittings. will i get back my hair? or this so called laser had actually destroyed my hair follicles completely. onething i have learned from this that we should be satisfied with what god has given us.

gicu October 21, 2011 at 3:55 pm

so what s up with this 93% pozitive results that they keep talking about ?
I just got one from my therapist and I had to return it after reading all this reviews.and what ever mr. stillman said , it s really sad if he makes all those errors. maybe he s in the shoes bussines too and he got all that information scrambled in his head.
I mean …, cccmon !! do you know what you re talking about or shut the heck up.

damn , so many people know things but they don t know shit ,..pardon my french!

Dimarma October 29, 2011 at 6:52 pm

@Jason

Finasteride is found in other medications not specifically intended to treat hair loss [think ProScar and Propecia].

These other medications have higher dosage but easily fixed by cutting individual pills to roughly get the 5mg

Around $50 for something like 3 months or longer. SO much cheaper

Amelia Passetti November 7, 2011 at 5:51 pm

I am not a regular listener or a doctor. I am a hairstylist in San Francisco North Bay area. I am researching ‘laser light therapy’ on hair loss and tuned into the 3 segments on this show that were supposedly about that . There was not very much info here. Two doctors with opposing views and callers talking about transplant problems. I could see why doctors would not want ‘outside’ treatments to work. This is supposedly the new salon treatment available to hairstylists, salon owners. Although Dr. Felling was brutal I agree with ” where is the phenomenon?” where are all the happy clients?? That’s all.

Will12257 November 13, 2011 at 12:21 am

Laser therapy, rogaine, finasteride, and nizoral….if used separately, will have minimal if no effects at all. But, if your able to use all of the above together, you can seriously stop hair loss and regrow a significant amount of hair. It’s a daunting task for sure, but if you develop a consistent routine I think you will agree. Obviously, traditional rogaine drys the scalp for most people to the point of disgust, but rogaine foam does not have the same effect because the delivering agent isn’t alcohol (which causes the dryness and flakes).

Will12257 November 13, 2011 at 12:36 am

You must combat hairloss from multiple angles if you truly hope to be successful. If the foam leaves your hair crusty and matted down, try using it at night, and use traditional rogaine in the morning. I say this because from my personal experience, if I use the old school rogaine in the morning, although it’s greasy, I can blow dry my hair until it’s completely dried. I use my laser comb every other day with the rogaine routine along with finasteride. I also use nizoral every other day as well. Trust me, if you follow this religiously I guarantee you will at least stop the loss of additional hair, and, more than likely, regrow a considerable amount of lost hair. You will see that your hairloss will taper off after about 2-3 weeks, then, after about 3 months, you will slowly begin to notice your hair filling in a bit. Remember, it’s easier to keep the hair you have. I’m going through this with you all and am trying to share my experience and knowledge.

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